The (un)Real Story of Obama’s Decision Making: SEALS Save Face for Obama

 Postscript Friday April 24:  Because this story has drawn so much attention and several comments I am leaving it up; however, be advised there are significant discrepancies between this “chain email” and the “official” story posted by the mainstream media (see link in comments).  It comes down to credibility and while I respect SEALS not to come forward and make any public statements, I doubt we ever really know the truth until years down the road.  Perhaps Soldier of Fortune (SOF) magazine will publish an accurate and complete accounting.

Courtesy of Alaska (unedited)–

I got this from a friend of mine that is an ex CIA spook and he got it from the horses mouth. Draw your own conclusions.

Having spoken to some SEAL pals here in Virginia Beach yesterday and asking why this thing dragged out for 4 days, I got the following: 

1.  BHO wouldn’t authorize the DEVGRU/NSWC SEAL teams to the scene for 36 hours going against OSC (on scene commander) recommendation.   

 

 anything unless the hostage’s life was in “imminent” danger 

 

2.  Once they arrived, BHO imposed restrictions on their ROE that they couldn’t do

 

3.  The first time the hostage jumped, the SEALS had the raggies all sighted in, but could not fire due to ROE restriction

 

4.  When the navy RIB came under fire as it approached with supplies, no fire was returned due to ROE restrictions.  As the raggies were shooting at the RIB, they were exposed and the SEALS had them all dialed in.

 

5.  BHO specifically denied two rescue plans developed by the Bainbridge CPN and SEAL teams

 

6.  Bainbridge CPN and SEAL team CDR finally decide they have the OpArea and OSC authority to solely determine risk to hostage.  4 hours later, 3 dead raggies


7.  BHO immediately claims credit for his “daring and decisive” behavior.  As usual with him, it’s BS.
 

So per our last email thread, I’m downgrading Oohbaby’s performance to D-.  Only reason it’s not an F is that the hostage survived.

 

 

Read the following accurate account.

 

 

Philips’ first leap into the warm, dark water of the Indian Ocean hadn’t worked out as well. With the Bainbridge in range and a rescue by his country’s Navy possible, Philips threw himself off of his lifeboat prison, enabling Navy shooters onboard the destroyer a clear shot at his captors — and none was taken.

The guidance from National Command Authority — the president of the United States, Barack Obama — had been clear: a peaceful solution was the only acceptable outcome to this standoff unless the hostage’s life was in clear, extreme danger.

 

 

The next day, a small Navy boat approaching the floating raft was fired on by the Somali pirates — and again no fire was returned and no pirates killed. This was again due to the cautious stance assumed by
Navy personnel thanks to the combination of a lack of clear guidance from Washington and a mandate from the commander in chief’s staff not to act until Obama, a man with no background of dealing with
such issues and no track record of decisiveness, decided that any outcome other than a “peaceful solution” would be acceptable.

 

 

After taking fire from the Somali kidnappers again Saturday night, the on scene commander decided he’d had enough.

 

 

Keeping his authority to act in the case of a clear and present danger to the hostage’s life and having heard nothing from Washington since yet another request to mount a rescue operation had been denied the day before, the Navy officer — unnamed in all media reports to date — decided the AK47 one captor had leveled at Philips’ back was a threat to the hostage’s life and ordered the NSWC team to take their shots.

 

 

Three rounds downrange later, all three brigands became enemy KIA and Philips was safe.

There is upside, downside, and spin side to the series of events over the last week that culminated in yesterday’s dramatic rescue of an American hostage.

 

 

Almost immediately following word of the rescue, the Obama administration and its supporters claimed victory against pirates in the Indian Ocean and [1] declared that the dramatic end to the standoff put paid to questions of the inexperienced president’s toughness and decisiveness.

 

 

Despite the Obama administration’s (and its sycophants’) attempt to spin yesterday’s success as a result of bold, decisive leadership by the inexperienced president, the reality is nothing of the sort.   What should have been a standoff la sting only hours — as long as it took the USS Bainbridge and its team of NSWC operators to steam to the location — became an embarrassing four day and counting standoff between a ragtag handful of criminals with rifles and a U.S. Navy warship.

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8 Responses to “The (un)Real Story of Obama’s Decision Making: SEALS Save Face for Obama”

  1. Dan Weese says:

    I would put absolutely no cred in this sort of crap. The USN did exactly what it was ordered to do and ROEs exist for a reason. DEVGRU and NSWC take orders from the CIC and we may all thank the Almighty for that simple fact.

    I wore a uniform and pulled the trigger for this country, too. I, too, know Navy SEAL members. A pile of unsourced scuttlebutt like this does not sound like anything a SEAL would say. But to see this crap repeated by a buncha fucking sea lawyers and wannabes makes me laugh. You see, a SEAL takes orders. He obeys orders. He wears his uniform and pulls the trigger under mandate granted him by a civilian, a tradition going back to George Washington. I obeyed orders. They obeyed orders. And I’m proud of them for doing the needful.

    There’s a difference between those of us who pulled the trigger and everyone else. We who did get to live with that fact. I’ve developed a minor specialty in sussing out military bullshit artistes and the one common aspect all wannabees and fakers have in common is this: they all seem to enjoy the idea of killing. Anyone who’s actually done it hates it and is glad enough to have someone else take the blame/responsibility for it. When you’ve seen and lived with the aftermath of the first few seconds after the trigger gets pulled, you don’t make Tough Guy noises any more, because anyone can pull a trigger, even a little child can depress a trigger. Ask any cop, ask anyone who carries a weapon and has to use it.

    Because it doesn’t make any difference how bad the Bad Guy was after the trigger is pulled. He’s just dead or dying. It doesn’t matter that he might have deserved it. It just doesn’t fucking matter, he’s dead like everyone who ever died is dead. But see, usually he’s not dead, he’s dying and it takes a good long while for the fucker you just shot to either bleed out or stop convulsing.

    Pointless to explain it to people who haven’t done it. But even when the reality of war and trigger pulling is laid out to them, they’re not going to listen. They’re going to go on running their big ugly mouths.

  2. Dr. Kent says:

    Well, I’m going to approve your comments because you are so on-target with them. I admit I did not research the story nor did I edit it. Moreover, I have no experience upon which to judge the credibility of this accounting, but my friend who forwarded it to me certainly has.

    Dan, your points about the aftermath of killing are good ones. It is ugly. Certainly, in this instance it was necessary.

    Taking life for most conscience driven people is not something to be glorified. However, it amazes me that our country can produce such men of character who serve so well.

    However, the idea behind this story is not to glorify killing but to render an accounting that might humble our new Master rather than continue to put Obama up on a pedestal. I doubt this story is completely accurate but I believe it mostly true. The point being Obama is not much of a leader and we have the wrong man in the White House!

    On the other hand, I believe God put Obama in the Presidency for a reason. And that reason is to deliver God’s judgement upon US. Either we face the reality and accept this wake-up call or we are in for far greater humbling!
    But, that’s just my opinion.

    What’s yours?

  3. Dr. Kent says:

    It appears credible, however, BOTH may be equally credible.

    Thanks for the comment.

  4. GFofGoku(thelastSaiyan) (Claude Moutoussamy) says:

    Your slanted opinion on ‘BHO’ (our President) requests your futher spin (for whatever reason your mind wanders aimlessly):

    The Navy ship that rescued Captain Richard Phillips from the pirates was commanded by Rear Admiral Michelle Howard. As a clarification (not mine) it was mentioned: “Just a point of clarification, she probably does not command just that ship, as RADMs usually command a fleet of ships instead of just one ship. She probably came on board one of her fleet of ships as they worked through that event. She may be shown as commander because she was the SOPA (Senior Officer Present Afloat).”

    Finally, what Professional qualifies their writings as you have in your above ‘Blog’ as: “I admit I did not research the story nor did I edit it. Moreover, I have no experience upon which to judge the credibility of this accounting.”

    I suppose you will ‘slant’ this comment by not posting…and that, my friend, is the rest of the story…

  5. Dr. Kent says:

    Oh, really?

    I don’t doubt the Senior Military Assistant to the Secretary of the Navy gave the orders in general or even specifically to that ship’s captain; however, the Senior Military Assistant to the Secretary of the Navy Rear Admiral (Select) Michelle Howard duties could include and probably does include everything and anything that occurs in the US Navy.

    Here’s her bio:

    http://www.navy.mil/navydata/bios/navybio.asp?bioID=356

    I fail to get your point.

    If your contribution was motivated to defend your president, I understand the personal attack.

    Let it be known that I dispute the legitmacy of any & all presidents elected since and including Woodrow Wilson!

    As far as my mind wandering, so what? Who cares? What if it does wander? And wonder?

    Perhaps if you really spent some time on my blog mining it for all the “diverse” (I hate that term!) data AND you read the books I recommend, you would be able to see the Big Picture, the larger story I am trying to convey.

    Sadly, there isn’t much intelligence out there.

    There are few who can read and fewer who do read.

    There is a saying:

    The Devil is in the Details.

    But I tell you:

    The Devil gets one (US) lost purposely in the Details.

    There is layer upon layer of deception and The Big Picture is difficult to see without tremendous effort over a long period of time. And it may not be at all possible without the blessing of God!

    I, however, have been given that insight, that blessing.

    Now, I have asked the party you allude to above to come forward and post, however, that person is two degrees away from me. The intermediary has likewise chosen not to post.

    I respect those who confide in me and do not wish to come forward. Moreover, those who do inform me of certain things and events, I do not publish generally without their permission.

    There is NO SPIN on Obama.

    He is IMO:

    The Kenyan Bastard!

  6. Dr. Kent says:

    As I wrote earlier that I hoped Soldier of Fortune would come out with an article on the incident, the latest issue of SOF has both an open letter from my local Sheriff Joe Arpaio and an accounting of what occurred as the SEALS rescued Captain Phillips.

    More importantly, there was nothing in the authoritative accounting in this issue of SOF that negates or even contradicts the story circulated in mass email. This just goes to show that differing perspectives may each be absolutely valid.

    In fact, the article in SOF allows the story I blogged to stand as credible.

    While SOF continues to improve and I highly recommend reading & subscribing to SOF [I do both!] Obama’s team scours the net seeking to silence any critics, any voice of reason and to protect their almighty furher!

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